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Recently a courageous Pakistani Ex-Muslim Imran Firasat’s filed a petition to the Spanish government to ban the Qu’ran a book used by Muslims that also inspires terrorism. Many Muslims called Imran stupid, and said the Government of Spain is not going to entertain his petition and that they will tear and throw the petition away. A Muslim under the user name “Reader Muslim and Proud” on a website commented: “I think the government of Spain will take this muppet very seriously and they will ban the Holy Qur’an………not.”
The skeptics and Islamic zealots were dead wrong. There’s fantastic news for those, battling Islamic fascism. The Spain Parliament has officially admitted Imran’s petition to ban the Quran. A letter from the Parliament of Spain informed Imran that they have admitted the petition and sent to the “Constitutional Commission” of the Parliament for deliberation on it.
Madrid Islamic train bombings in 2004 (also known in Spain as 11-M)
Letter from Spanish Parliament: Quran ban petition admitted
An outright ban of the Quran may not be on the card as yet. But acceptance of the petition for consideration takes us to the next level, a big leap forward, toward condemnation of the violent Quran. And credits for this would go to the Spanish parliament as much as it would go to Imran Firasat.
A few weeks ago Imran handed over a formal document to the Ministry of the Presidency, the Congress of Representatives, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of the Interior, in which he presented 10 points to back his request:
1. The Quran is not a sacred and religious book, but a violent book, full of hatred and discrimination.
2. Quran is a horrible book which provokes a community it calls Muslims to undertake Jihad, kill innocent people and destroy the peace of the world.
3. The Quran is responsible for all the terrorism we have seen in recent years in which thousands of people lost their lives.
4. The Quran is a book which contains evil teachings and forces its believers to capture the entire world and total power at any price.
5. The Quran is a book which legally permits and incites hatred and violence, and for that reason it is not compatible with the modern world, including Spain.
6. The Quran is a book which directly discriminates between human beings.
7. The Quran is a book which does not allow either freedom of expression or religious freedom.
8. The Quran is a book which causes women to suffer and be tortured through the totality of its injustice and macho laws.
9. The Quran is a book which, rather than teaching unity, teaches disunity, and in this way does not allow its believers to form friendships with those who are not Muslims, because in the eyes of Quran they are infidels.
10. The Quran is a major threat to the free society of Spain. A book which clearly preaches the messages of jihad, killing, hate, discrimination and revenge. For that reason it cannot be compatible with the Spanish system in any sense. It is a book totally contrary to what the law and constitution of Spain say, and it incites hatred and violence in our country.
The Unholy Quran should be immediately banned in the whole world not only in Spain. Spain should take this great initiative and make a history. I request Spain Government to ban it right away. Being a muslim, I read it, analyzed and found that the disharmony and turbulation in the is just because of this unholy book. Muslims are just like termite, they destroy where it live, they bomb blast and kill and persecute people to convert to their religion. They are horrible. They want to establish totalitarianism and fascism. They are different from the mentality of rest of the world. Quran demands to kill JEWS, CHRISTIANITY, NON-BELIEVERS, IDOLISTS in many of its verses. It realy encourages hatred, bloodshed and terrorism. PLEASE SPAIN do it fast. MAKE A HISTORY
plss stop this type of shit…..islam means peace n our religion didnt do any harm to other religion….we guys just want peace n other religion r not allowing us to have this ….in other hand they are also killing muslim peoples which force muslim people to fight against them
Islam does NOT mean peace. Please stop saying that.
Islam means submission and even huge Islamic scholars agree on that.
You should finally accept what your religion is all about. It has nothing to do with peace!!!!! FAR FAR FAR from it!
NO, islam DOES NOT mean peace, YOU PEOPLE are coming into OUR countries and destroying people and taking over small European countries to make them muslim countries. Your “religion” is a cult and is run by a bunch of crazy terrorists. If you don’t like the way people see it, change it yourself. Stop the jihadists and radical islamist.
I aint a big time supporter for any god damn religion on the planet, though i was brought up in a very orthodox catholic family. Merely stating the facts:
1. Islam is a mere joke. A very twisted plot for total supremacy by Mohammed.
2. Mohammed was a big time illiterate looser, rapist, robber, murderer, pedophile, etc; He bloody had an affair with a catholic lady and learnt all that he could abt the bible and Jewish scriptures.
3. He lost the battle for mecca madina more than 20 times. He was chased away like a dog.
4. That is when he realized that the only way to conquer and posses absolute power is by religion. A well designed religion where there is not a minuscule chance for the normal man to ask questions. There will be no philosophy but will be run absolutely on literal terms.
5. The Muslims think that by jihad as in how the terrorists are trained, when they die with an explosion they ‘ll get jannat. Jannat in terms of heaven for them is defined as a place where they will get some 300 or so virgin gals to fuck around with. I dnt remember the exact number. So it shows they are basically sex driven losers!!!! (Solution: somebody teach them how to date!!!)
6. Muslims even say that they alone have the way to god and others are infidels. They claim a direct entry to heaven. WTF???? Its funny, coz they dnt have any respect, love or life on this plane when they are currently in existence!!!!
7.Every Muslim kid is brain washed into a potential sleeper bomb exploding suicide agent. Ironically, every Shia hates a Sunni and vice versa!!! (Hopefully they end up killing each other at the end of the day… jus kidding… it ‘ll lead to a larger collateral damage!!!)
8. The only purpose of Muslims is absolute control… Its very similar to the upcoming Hindu fanatics in INDIA!!!! and its funny, coz there is no religion called HINDU!!! Its only a category given by the British during company rule!!!
9. I have tried to wish many a Muslim with the usual assalaam walaikum. According to cultural tradition they should reply without hesitation, but…. I’ve observed that, they only reply to a Muslim ( You can try this by acting like one. I’ve done it. Left beard and worn those idiotic design pants. It worked. They wished me back). Very very few reply to non Muslims. A simple fact but displays their actual motive and mental integrity!!!!
Simply put… Fanatics in any religion or with any idea command tremendous annihilation power, and when one puts Islamic teaching and its followers into perspective, there cannot be any greater threat!!! [Of course, reaper's from mass effect can be a greater threat!!! (",) ]
PS: Every thing mentioned above is an aggressively personal thought. Its only an opinion from my stand point. You like it.. Good!!! If you Don’t… The problem resides within you!!!!
Thank You!!!
I agree with you about your remarks on Islam, but not about Hinduism , it’s one of the oldest religion in the world… well i m not here to teach u about Hinduism , you can just google it to clear your doubts. A person’s entire life span is also too small to learn the rich culture and facts of Hinduism. Try it , surely u will lead a better life.
Very Well Ron! Appreciate 99.99%
Talking about the Hindu fanatics in India, let me bring this to light in short:- its only coming up (after ages) from a constant heinous inhumanity from the Islamic radicals. Check out the recent ongoing sufferings in Bengal and the radical doings of the minister of that state. and what is become of various parts of this nation because of islamic influence. I mean torching houses, raping women and demolishing shrines in thousands, i guess is definitely ‘not a joke’ for the Hindu spectators to watch. Let alone the origin of the ‘sanatan dharma’ we call of Hindu. There might be Islamic and Christian stories of atrocities on India, not an example vice versa.
Real islam is totally opposite of what you have stated. If you want to know the real Islam please be connected to a Muslim of Ahmadiyya Islam. Read internet page alislam.org and get answers to all of your doubts. Most of the terrorist groups in Islam are those who have been bought by dollars of anti Islamic groups, who fear from such wrong ideology spread in muslim countries and outside.
If you know the real Islam, you will be astonished to know that a Muslim is required to believe in all religions on the earth as true religions otherwise he/she cannot be Muslim. What ever you wrote is correct for hypocrites which pose themselves as Muslims.
Islam is a very dangerous ideology of hate, founded by a literal warlord!
Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mohammad said Islam is peace, but he was a warrior, we know Mohammad and Islam by its fruits, not it’s claims.
Matt 7:16 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
John 16:2 in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.
3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.
4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them. I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you
They receive their text from an angels whom is really Satan (Mohammad cave hira).
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light
Below is what REAL Islam as about, the ISLAM Mohammad (piss be upon him) himself practiced along with pedophilia, adulatory, rape, theft and war.
I have read the quran and studied it and I have NO doubts,everything you wrote was a lie. There is only ONE islam, every muslim admits that, try Turkeys Prime Minister Erdogan who said to the world.” there is no moderate or radical islam, there is only one islam” you fool no-one ..we the entire non – muslim world can see what islam is , in every atrocity we have seen in photos of victims since 9/11..22,000 attacks by muslim terrorists in that time, so shame on you for being a muslim excusing terrorism!!!
You sounded a Muslim, practicing lies, Its called Taqiyya to promote/save islam. its your duty, we don’t mis understand you, we understand that we expect lies from Islam lovers.
But we are TaqiyyaProof, and getting better on it.
As Islamic teaching prohibit Muslims saying negative on fellow Muslim in public but can in private. So I can understand you, but we realize Islam is dangerous for you as well so we will fight. Quran/Mohammad doings/deeds, the Sunnah/Hadith need to be destroyed from the globe else atrocities will continue.
Dear Mr Ron,
Quote: “I aint a big time supporter for any god damn religion on the planet, though i was brought up in a very orthodox catholic family. Merely stating the facts:”
This is your opening score. I am deeply sorry to disagree with you on your views on what you “passingly” referred to the ideology “Hinduism”. I like to state few facts from your comment hereunder:
(1) You pretend to be almost atheist though admit to be born in a “very orthodox catholic family” From your entire comment including a few harsh words like ‘bloody’ etc, you certainly deem to be a ‘very orthodox catholic’ dragging needlessly Hinduism in this discussion, which is entirely devoted to “Islam and Quran”.
(2) Please update yourself on “Hinduism”, which is agreeably a word given to the people living east of “Indus River” by the ancient Persians and Arabic tribes, including perhaps “Alexander” and subsequently popularised by the invading European profligates in which British as Anglophonic race was at its forefront.
(3) Nowhere in any ancient scriptures in Indian subcontinent appear the word “Hindu or Hinduism”, the correct description is “Sanatana Dharma”, loosely (stress) translated in English as “Eternal Religion”.
(4) I wouldn’t have been this elaborate if you would have also referred to some Christian atrocities also while meddling with Hinduism, while the topic concerns “Islam and Quran”; e.g. Congo atrocities by King Leopold II, Goa Inquisitions by the Catholic Prophet Saint Francis Xavior, complicity of Catholic Pope Pius XII, etc. Was that Pope Pius or impius, I won’t like to indulge here but it certainly was a heinous complicity with Hitler the tyrant and the Holocaust is the right word to it.
(5) The main Mosque in Mecca “Mosque Al-Haram” was a Shiva Temple and was very famous and popular temple due to it lying en route to Silk Road and a thriving business in spices from India and silk from China.
(6)en passant, Christian call “Holy Trinity” worship, not one God or one book; while Muslims say proudly, “One Book, One Prophet, One Religion”. Then why Muslims go to Hajj and bow to pray and lick – Hajje Aswad, Muqam Ibrahim, and Kabba. Why do they throw stone at “Satan” in that field? Is it not an imaginary ghost (idol) to speak the least?
(7) Why do the Muslims go to the well Zamzam and take a “sip” of that water? It is no different culture than they assimilated it from the “Hinduism” in those days like they take “Charanamrit” in the Hindu temples everywhere.
(8) Please permit me to continue using “Hinduism” word for ease of description, is the only iseology, which still preaches “Universal Brotherhood” and “Perennial Monotheism”,
through the well acclaimed phrase, “Ekam sat, wipra bahdha vadanti” (Truth is one but the wiseone express it in different words and languages differently). Will here anyone understand if a Jewish start discourse in Hebrew or another one in French, Spanish and etc? Hinduism is too deep a way of life or cult or faith, whatever one like to express. Too bad if one doesn’t understand and then call imbecile shot naively. Problem is not Hinduism but we ourselves in our ignorance.
(9) Last word, respectfully, regarding Islam and Quran, I do not mean to hurt anyone, but a serious study on net will give some idea that Quran was not writen by Prophet Mohammad who was completely illiterate like the vast majority in Cannan in those days and even now in most of the desert nations. It was “Uthman” who tried to compile it but he incinerated the old copies of manuscripts by earlier authors, perhaps due to his difference with Lady Fatima. It needs a lot of research and both the Islamic and non Islamic scholars have a lot of defferences in opinion.
(10) In summary, again respectfully, Muslim society must cool down its fanaticism to permit clear all these ambiguities in their best interests. Thus while we discuss more, a pertinent question leaves us, “Which Quran and whose Islam”? Mere jihadi killing threats will not help the global community which is being a captive of the murders, loot, rapes etc in the name of Islam. Current turmoil in Bangladesh, Pakistan are a good example if we leave other places aside for brevity.
I am sorry, if anyone’s sentiments are hurt, but please do more home work before we throw stone on others’ houses…???
another muslim full s#it
Your comments shows how ignorant you’re with your religion. You need to study your Quran very well to find facts you never believed would be in it . ma salam.
Thank you for the tip. I would like to learn the Quran from yourself. It may open my eyes. Till today I believed Real Islam a peaceful religion. But Islam presented by Terrorists is off course full of destructive ideas. You all read the Quran & Islam taught by the Terrorists only.
There is only one islam and only one quran, and they have only one prophet who said this” I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS WITH TERROR” mohammad was a warlord who killed many people who refused to believe in him and his so-called prophethood…Where did you ever read of any other leader of their religion who taught to fight with terror…not Jesus, not Buddha, not Confucius, and he had slaves and traded in them, he also raped a little 9 year old girl, plus many other women..who would want to follow an evil man like that?or believe in the god that he served?
Respectful AUSSIEWOMAN, what are you talking…This is all bunch of Lies creation of enemy of Islam. Please first confirm your information. You appear to be gentle woman, please do not quote what is not right. Can you provide references of what is being quoted in these columns. I explain my point by referring to a traffic sign “Do not Drive when you are drunk”. this a good advise. But when some one quotes partly “Do not Drive” it becomes meaningless and foolish statement. Same is the case of quotes given by those who are unable to stand before Islamic theology. Quran is also a book of science, if you read it carefully. Read what christian scholars have written about Quran. You will be astonished that they accepted it as a book from God.
Islam is the enemy of Islam, its actions of their false prophet speaks for itself. The terrorist themselves say they are inspired directly by the Qu’ran.
Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Also NO Christian scholars accept the quran as from GOD, it is actually a very badly written and grammatically inferior book.
Here is your religion of peace!
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
islam is peace?yeah piece alright pieces of other peoples bodies lying artound after thugs of this cut blow them up or drag them through the streets behind as motorbke.all you muslims are nothing but two faced lying dogs and this religion is a fake,just as fake as the global warming scare.
Hahahah… are you able to show only 10 Islamic peaceful news? Islam is religion of terror..
Tell that to the Arab Christians in the middle east constantly stabbed, shot and beaten just for being Christian. (They even sent out warnings for us).
Tell that to the Jews in Malmo Sweden constantly fearing walking down the street at any given part of the day.
Tell that to the 300 or so British women raped by 9 Muslim men over a period of 5 years because of ‘honor rape’ they keep spouting.
That is only a sliver of what is wrong with it. I’m sorry, but you’re going to have to try a lot harder then that if you want me to believe it is a religion of peace, all you people do is say time and time again ‘we are a religion of peace’ yet you’re the same people who are the most active when your religion comes under criticism, destroying property and beating people up is not going to win you any ‘peace points’.
You know what happens when a Christian gets criticized or have their bible burnt by an atheist or another religion? They either get sad or argue/debate with them, they don’t threaten to kill them and only very rarely a religious nutter will send a death threat, and no one really cares about them because it just looks stupid.
Criticize Islam or burn the qu’ran and you’re liable to get violently beaten, get sent death threats (countless amounts), or even killed. And then you have the violent riots and destruction of property.
I should know, I’m an atheist and crack jokes about Christians all the time, not once have I been threatened with death, I’ll give Christians that much, while as bloody their history is, they just don’t do that anymore and we can be civil, and while discrimination still exists, we live a rather peaceful coexistence(some of the atheists I admit go over board by attacking Christianity though considering our culture is based on it.
I want to believe Islam is ‘just another religion of peace’ but you haven’t given me any reason to believe so, and reading the qu’ran makes it even more clear that it is not, you can say ‘you take it out of context’ but you can’t take ‘kill the infidel’ out of context, you yourself take it out of context by saying that the qu’ran is ‘peaceful’.
Most holy books are anything but peaceful, but I don’t see Jews going out of their way to commit Genocides because they still read a book that orders it do they?
There’s the difference between Islam and other religions, and if you don’t like the fact that in western countries we can have civil debates, be-gone, we don’t want you here. I’d rather be in a nation full of Christians than Muslims because at least Christians have proven they can be peaceful and dropped their Bronze age shenanigans.
what more is needed to defend Islam after you’ve so clearly expressed Chris
Cheers!
Yes, Chris answered well, and exposed all the evils of islam..well done, Chris! I couldn’t have said it better, I would be ashamed to be a muslim,..and follow such an evil cult.
Abid Ali is not a muslim , he is barking against muslim. Spain better knows itself that, what is right? and what is wrong? What is better ? and , Wht is bad? for spain
and for spanish people ? Quran is not a matter … Quran is a solution of every matter … if you read that book in its original Arabic Language it will increase your spiritual level and strengthen your heart, it intenally gives you a power,and tht power brings you a spiritual peace and calm . And if you read this book with translation , thn you’ll know ,the real meaning of knowledge … Here I request to every one Do not Blame, Do not raise finger , untill you know, the full story with all TruTh … Every mirror has two faces ‘…
A book that says I deserve to die unless I submit to Islam is not a friend of mine. So this “mirror”, dear Zed, has only one face.
Well Said Zed….
Sorry…It should be well said Kat…How can quran preach peace …when it says to hate unbelievers and above all there hatred towards Jews…No religion of peace teaches u to hate another human being…So, Please stop saying …Islam is a religion of peace…
Ummm i just want to say something
It is true there are terrorists
And it is true they say they are muslims and want jihad
But jihad is not killing other people
If you kill in islam you are supposed to go to hell
There are 1 billion muslims in the world
They are of different nationalities and have different ways of living
But you actually believe that all those people are terrorists
Think of this rationally if they were terrorists you would all be dead
But hey if you wanna believe all this bullshit about muslims being hateful
I say you are full of shit and oh by the way in the quran which you say is full of hate
It is daid that we must respect all the other religions
However, only the arabic transilation says that so i dont really give a fuck what you think
Piece of advice, stop kidding yourself
Oh and 1 more thing there are transilations into all the languages
So go online somewhere and read it
Dumb*****….
Oh and im not really an orthodox muslim so no beard and pants so forgive me if i say
**** you
The only delusional person around here is you Hussein.
Oh please if you can explain to me how i am delusional and you are not. Listen you have your religion and i have mine. So why do you bother me if i do not bother you?
Oh and if you are atheist then fuck off
Is that a takia “why do you bother me if i do not bother you?” How come you say that when your religion bothers every one including Muslims (Imran Khan is also afraid to speak freely in news against these radical muslims)
I wish i cold agree that you/your Islam don’t bother every one in the world. Unfortunately due to your Takias and advantage any religions respecting others islam are being taking advantage. Any point of time if all common ppl realize this. they will force to burn the quran right away or else show the door.
Hey kir ch listen
U say we bother you right? But do you deny that you bother us too? Those radicals you talk about are 0.00001 percent of muslims around the world. They are like a needle in a haystack. How are we supposed to fight them. And by the way i dont give a shit about imran khan or whoever he is. I am just telling you islam is not killing and beating up. And if you dont wanna be one u are not forced to. Do i look like i am forcing you?
Im not telling you to come and join islam
And that is not a takia it is a quote from the quran
I’m TaqiyyaProof, .00001% of Islam/book teachings practicals.
When actions speak words are nothing. So stop Taqiyya to below response as “I am just telling you islam is not killing and beating up”, you are a liar(taqiyya follower) or not following islamic teachings/quran.
Burnt alive see if you can:
http://www.polskibreivik.pl/post,0.html
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489239111131123&set=a.351212731600429.92717.350771908311178&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488641371190897&set=a.351212731600429.92717.350771908311178&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=487001161354918&set=a.351212731600429.92717.350771908311178&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=366289876822120&set=a.253136594804116.56729.253126498138459&type=1&relevant_count=1
quarn is a solution to NOTHING. It is only hatred and killing everyone who is not muslim.
Your right sonya.I was working in the middle-east for five years.And i experienced how muslims treated the non-muslim in their land.Its horrible way of treating a human being.Thats why quran must be banned anywher.
world should treat them same as they treat non-muslims in Muslim countries.
I agree to you , i live in an non muslim country but still in muslim country like pakistan they burn hindus alive !! Jew christians are killed by them in their own worship places
Islam certainly has two faces and that is also apparent in the q’ran. While it preaches violence and death toward non-muslims and control of the whole world, it also teaches taquiia, to lie for the cause of Islam. It is completely barbaric, dictated by an ignorant and dangerous warlord, obsessed with torture and death, intent on controlling the masses and keeping the everyone in the 7th century. Many muslims have never even read it and are dictated to by the imams who interpret however it suits them and use it to strike terror and hatred into the heads of ignorant people. Until muslims accept women as equal to men they will never find any peace.
Wow taquiia is such a easy way to fool others…as they are making fool of the western governments…still they dont understand, these governments will only understand when they are taken over by the sharia law…not the law of the land…
lol… wat will u call muhammed ??? a child molester…
A paedophile! Amongst many other things.
I agree with Adib Ali, He is right, and none religion ask people to kill others except islam.
reading the Quran in its original arabic text ? another way to hide the truth. Why don’t you translate the quran in spanish and let the whole people see what you have in it. If its a true religion of peace or not. Apologist! thats what you are.
http://translate.google.com/#ar/en/
I believe it is available in Spanish. Please check at alislam.org website. You may have it if you request on this website….not a problem. this the best way to understand Islam….You should also request a Commentary in spanish from the same website.
I totally agree with you, Abid Alie. The quran should be banned everywhere. If I ever come across a copy, it will be burned on the alter of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Good Sonya…
Listen to what this educated Jewish professor lady has to say! It might enlighten you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5p327icYxY
a Hope for human kind survival. and a genuine tribute form a Muslim(cleaning within) to save world including muslims from torture by banning. this book is a virus. it must must be acknowledged, counteracted, quarantined, deleded from world for ever.
I am saying to all world people even spain people and GOV alsoPLZ…. stop thise type of Wrong NEWS… Islam means peace n our religion didnt do any harm to other religion… and u will come to know when u die frnd taht QURAN is the words of ALLAH .being muslim its not good…
Spain spent several hundred years under Muslim rule and is fully aware of the “advantages” associated with it.
I pray thy God to forgive us all.
Forgiving only through Jesus Christ. The Muslims will need to be forgivin for following a pedophile rapist robber murderer and calling him (Mohammad) a prophet!
I wonder who gave you the right to insult other religious beliefs? You don’t like it? Fine. But please do not say such things.
Get real. Thats not a religion, its a totalitarian political system run on terror. Its common knowledge Mohammad Piss be upon him was a warloard responsible for the murder of thousands and that he married a girl of 6 and had sex with her when she was nine. Hel, they’ve just made it legal to have sex with your dead wife!!!
And you came to know of this ‘common knowledge’ how? Do enlighten me.
Use your initiative,the internet is full of information, but lets look at all the rapes of underage girls by muslim “men” in Britain and other Western countries. Mohamed, piss be upon him is their highest example of how to be a 7th Centuary moron, I mean muslim. He married Aiesha when she was 6, had sex with her when she was 9, so underage sex is the norm for these scum.
The internet?? seriously??? This argument will go nowhere now!
Candy, these crimes are celebrated in muslim scriptures, including the koran. The internet merely makes spreading the word of the evils of islam much easier. I have 3 korans on my bookshelf (to compare various translations for accuracy). All this horrible stuff and more is in there.
Candy..I’m sure you are not as thick as you are sounding.just to help you,
try reading the quran and the history of islam
Hey candy i agree with you completely, because all the information on the internet is uncertain. So dont tire yourself
Again Taqiyya, how shameless a Muslim can like we need to understand. Ooo sorry, that your book/Islamic teaching too and you are following it very sincerely, I can understand you but I’m TaqiyyaProof I see so many like below video and i trust action than your words. when actions speak words are nothing.
see vidoe inside
http://www.polskibreivik.pl/post,0.html
Iranian President Mohammad Khatami https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=487185021336967&set=a.109876105734529.21441.103875636334576&type=1&theater
another peace activity, sorry ITS PIECES
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=160309664133469&set=a.152287641602338.1073741828.152211701609932&type=1&theater
I assume you are addressing that comment to a muslim, as it is their quran that insults all other religions,especially the jews and christians, but also those with no beliefs, which are called infidels. 60% of quran is about how to fight, kill, torture and rule over those who are non muslims..eg other religions…Because muslims insult other religions that gives other religions the right to insult them ! this is the freedom of speech. the freedom of thought, and freedom of discussion and debate which is our human right under democracies… if you don’t like it, move to a muslim country where freedom does not exist..you are an idiot!
You guys don’t even know anything about Quran and translating it to another language may give u wrong meaning and I myself read Quran in arabic and I’m Somali, live in Finland. If I wanted to learn in my language i would learn it but the problem is that I would never know wat Allah exactly means and no one else cant understand it in their on language.
I’d rather choose Quran than a book(Bible)that was changed by some people..
The terrorist thing is Arab not all the muslims in the world just Arab.
If you think your cool who knows everything about Islam and Quran and hating on muslim because of their behaviour or the wars that happened long time ago just back the fuck off. It’s OUR religion not yours! We know our religion better than you all!
Islam is submit to God, a religion of peace..etc. and What the hell is Christianity or Jewish?? and Why the hell did they change their holy book?
Christians belives prophet Jesus is god. LOL!
He is human just like you all. The only thing he had that normal human didnt have was that he can do some rl magic.
I wont talk about Jewish because they are the worst.
Your talking about Islam and Quran even dont know nothing about it and wat if we talk about Christianity you wouldn’t say a thing about it because you know that religion is untrue.
The Qu’ran too has different translations, the Bible is proven authentic by artifacts. They find artifacts all the time each time the confirm, not one supports the Islamic corruption claim. This must be bothersome to Muslim. You have literally hundreds of thousand of artifacts from Jerusalem, Rome, Occupied Constantinople, Saudi Arabia etc etc all support so far.
Ask yourself one simple question, first why would devout people corrupt God words? Secondly half the Bible is shared by two totally different religion Jew and Christians exactly how to they both have the exact same verses??
Third the Qu’ran tell Muslim that Allah protects his words, does he pick and choose wish ones? No body can pull one over on God almighty, if you believe Humans corrupted God words you are not believing God almighty.
I don’t know where your going with original as some Muslim argue Qu’ran can only be read in Arabic. My argument is why would God only want a small percentage to understand in one language. Translation are acceptable in any form throughout the world. Some old English Bible spoken in a more Shakespearean English vs modern usage.. even that argument won’t fly as Greeks read in one Greek translation.
I can sit next to a Greek using the ancient copes of the Codex and read in Dutch and we both understand and can discuss, so your corruption claim is a hoax to mislead Muslims away from God.
Again ask yourself, how to Jews have the same verses as Christians in the Old testament if corrupted?
These questions always lead you to truth, see in our religion we want you to ask hard question because truth always prevails. In Islam they kill you for asking too many question. I think the response of Muslims is answer enough!
Alpineski… Ur such a dumb***
The christians have the bible and the jews have the toarah. They are totally different books, and yes they were corrupted by man. However, they were not corrupted now. They were corrupted a long time ago, centuries ago. That is how you have a number of bibles.
Oh and by the way the quran is most understandable in arabic because every sentence has a deep meaning. Slash that, every word has deep meaning you know why because we have these “? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ” these are symbols and there are symbols on every letter of every word and for every changing symbol the meaning of the word changes so there can be 2 heys but each hey would mean a different thing because the symbols are changed. That is why we read it in arabic
There are hundreds of series of books that explain just one section of the quran. Because the arabic version holds the true meaning.
But still you are a dumb*** and you are gonna take this for a joke and say
The quran forces muslims to submit or they die or the quran teaches killing. Which is total bullshit one might say. But you are a piece if big fat brown bullshit ya know so nobody cares what you think
Oh and we do not treat any non muslims badly at all its just your mom who we treat bad
Oh the symboljust appear as question marks
well whatever.
Sorry Ali your 100% incorrect, the Hebrew Tanakh and the Old Testament are indeed the same with the same chapters and verses. Where are you getting they are different? Again how would two totally different religious groups and devout followers have the same verses if corrupted? It a lie propagated by Islam.
Qu’ran is the corruption and we have proof:
The present Qu’ran that you read is indeed different from the early manuscripts.
It proves the Islamic claim that the Qu’ran is infallible as being outright false.
PROOF:
The 1972 discovery of the earliest surviving Qu’ranic manuscripts in the Great Mosque of Sana’a conclusively shows that the present Qu’ran is different from the early manuscripts.
The devastating truth is that a large number of ancient Qu’ranic manuscripts, dating from first century of Hijra were discovered in the Great Mosque of Sana’a (Yemen), which significantly differs from the present standard one. Carbon dating system confirmed that these Qu’rans are not forged one by religious rivalries. Moreover, these Qurans were discovered by Muslims, not kaffars.
As if it is not enough, many manuscripts showed the sign of palimpsests, i.e., versions very clearly written over even earlier washed off versions. The underwriting of palimpsest is, of course, often difficult to read visually, but modern tools, such as ultraviolet photography, can highlight them.
It suggests that the Sana’a manuscripts are not only variants to the present version of the Quran, but the Sana’a manuscripts themselves were variants of earlier version, re-written on the same paper.
What this means is Allah’s claim that original text is preserved in heaven on golden tablets (Q 56: 77–78; 85:21–22), which none can touch except angels is also a fairy-tale.
Dude, i have no time for this
You think you are right right?
And we think we are right
When we die we will know who was right so please do not disturb me anymore im getting tired of this
Ali I am not trying to be rude, and the The 1972 discovery is very real, google search for yourself.
We can only find Gods path by asking difficult questions and looking at the facts before us, we shall not ignore any of them if we want to find that path..
God Bless you brother!
There have been many versions of quran, but the final quran you have today is the only one that was not burnt, the early ruling muslim caliphs had to burn many versions which contradicted each other, but with the Bible we know from the scroll of Isaiah found from the Dead Sea Scrolls, that Isaiah is the same today, as it was written back then, not one word has changed from the Scrolls which are thousands of years old, archaeology proves the Bible true, so mohammad LIED about the Bible and Torah being changed..you are a foolish man to not study to prove ALL things, and GOD will not accept your ignorance as an excuse on Judgement Day
islam did not do any harm to u…they r just killing people because of their own peace…n u guys r killing muslim people..to get yourself killed
killing people because of their own peace.what does that mean. the religion of peace,, but you mean hate.
Congratulations Imran. This is indeed a very big success in the war against the murderous cult-Islam and a very big morale victory for many who are spreading the truth about it and what it really stands for.
European governments are finally beginning to realise how “Peaceful” Islam is and are waking up to this threat. I thought Spain was a lost cause but now there still may be some hope for it.
I wish you the best of luck for your endeavors in the Future. Hope the Quran gets Banned. Be VIGILANT AT ALL TIMES. LIBERALS AND MUSLIMS WILL HARASS YOU OR MAY TRY TO KILL YOU.
You are wrong. Islam is a peaceful religion. What may not be pieceful is how people use the religion. Dont forget that difference.
when action speak words are nothings. And the Actions speak violence not peace. One wil believe you when the action IS peace, you don’t have to repeat.
Spain talk about the modern world right…? First thing Quran-Sharif dont follow science…Science follows Quran-Sharif.. Now every1 in the NASA are becoming muslims because they have found what’s there written Quran are true.. U people dnt have any idea what islam is all about.. If u ppl think abt those muslim terrorist are preaching Islam then u deserve to b called as a modern citizen bcz the terrorist are terrorist matter which religion they follows.. what islam has done to u ? World War I was it caused by the muslims?? or the WW2 ??? Wa Hitler was a muslim??? the people he killed was 10times or more than those terrorists in these days and I dont like to call them as Muslim Terrorists bcz they are evil who are discouraging muslims.Do u guys really think that when a bomb falls into european countries and then we celebrate?? plz jst think !!. In Quran its written if u kill a human being u can go to heaven.. We knw how to respect other religions.. bcz of some terrorist killing ppls that doesnt mean all muslims are bad .. terrorists are terrorists ,it dont matter which religion they follow. Please know first what u’are pointing at , bcz as we(true muslims) believe that this is the book of ALLAH ..u can’t just banned this thing without knowing..think about urself ..u ppl also may not knw that Jesus Christ(PBUH) is also our prophet and so does Moses(PBUH)…plz the QURAN 1st ,if u really have to comment anything abt it… and its sorry to c that ppl are using fake names for comment and trying to show muslim as a terrorist society.. plz wakeup !! every thing will be accounted in the day of judgement…may ALLAH forgive us all. Ameen.
Sakib r u stupid, no one in NASA joins Islam. Thats a lie the Muslims tell there stupid followers to stupid to verify. Mohammad your prophets was a murderer, rapist, robber, pedophile and warlord. Hitler even said he likes Islam and it was better fitting to Nazi ideology and Christian too nice and wimpy. Islam killed more than Nazi, hundreds of millions more. Islamic terror is inspired by Islam, the Muslim terrorist claim this themselves. Christ is not a prophet, he told us who he is, you deny his words. Watch out Mohammad is false prophet and on judgment Muslims will pay, Mohammad is thrown to lake of fire.
Ideed a lots of scientists from NASA did convert to Islam. It’s a fact!
If , and I say IF,,,some scientists from NASA adopted the muslim creed, it would be to KEEP their jobs at NASA, seeing as how the Muslim in Chief in the White House Hussein Obama, castrated NASA’s main purpose ( space exploration) and told them that their new agenda was to make muslims feel good about themselves, Look that up,. I am not lying! NAASA now exists as a part of Obamas Dawah Plan to ISLAMIZE America..Sakib Ahmed Chowdhary is the sad product of muslim brainwashing, so much so that his mind has lost the ability to think outside of the erroneous hogwash he has been taught..So pity him, he is the victim of a cult, the cult of islam..He says terrorists are just terrorists, it doesn’t matter which religion they follow, but thats where he is wrong…20,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11 and ALL those attacks were by muslims!!! Let him show me ANY OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A BELIEF SYSTEM THEY CLAIM THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR, that has killed 20,000 in Jihadist attacks..he can’t so he should just stop the crap and face facts that he follows a violent religion with a violent prophet, and muslims celebrate violence every day, just go to any pro-muslim website
I dont think you should be mad at Sakib Ahmed Chowdhury, the man is in the matrix…. somebody just has to give him the red pill
It doesn’t matter HOW MANY people you kill, one or 1,000,000. To make that an arguing point just shows how evil the quran and islam is. One person’s life is worth the same as any other amount.
Jesus Christ is not a prophet, He is the only Son of the ONLY God (hint: it ain’t mohammad the pedophile). So don’t even lump Him in with your evil cult religion and it’s evil leaders.
And God is caring and loving?
Psalm 137:9
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” – Talks about throwing babies against rocks.
Hosea 13:16
Samaria will be desolated, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword, their infants will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. Hosea 13:16 – Talking about killing pregnant women and children.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man rapes a virgin, and gets caught, he must pay her father 30 pieces of silver, and then marry her. – So if you get raped, God says you must marry the person who raped you.
So it seems the Christian god is just as evil as the Muslim god.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 does not talk about rape, where does it mention rape? I is if a man sleeps with a woman he must marry that woman. That’s it.
Psalm 137 Psalmist is in exile and had witnessed the atrocities committed against his people, babies included. In the revenge-style that was so common at the time, he wishes the same upon his enemy as a description of their utter destruction. Nowhere does it say that God approves of the Psalmist’s request or that he fulfilled it. Just because it is recorded that the Psalmist wrote the imprecation, doesn’t mean it was approved by God.
Hosea 13:16 Mens’ own actions lead to tragedies like those predicted against Samaria, or Northern Isreal. The Prophet is trying to get the people to repent and change. If they do, the prediction will not happen. A similar story is found in Jonah. Jonah is told to go and tell Ninevah they are doomed. The people repent and are spared. Jonah is even upset because of God’s mercy.
This is not about YOUR god is better than MY god, you fool… we are talking about the right of FREE PEOPLE to live in a FREE society unmolested by religious fanatics, and HOW those fanatics are produced..They are PRODUCED by the writings of the QURAN, which according to muslims are valid for ALL TIME , which they must enforce until their Mahdi comes to kill all non believers! The Old Testament is NOT BEING PRACTICED TODAY, thats why it is called the OLD Testament( because another Testament took its place which was the NEW Testament,,,in which NONE of these teachings appear..But we have with ISLAM ,killing, torturing,stoning, beheading, crucifying, enslaving,subjugating, and finally ruling over all the world with an ENFORCED religion,the choice to either convert , be killed or to live under a third class citizenship( Dhimmitude) of an Islamic Caliphate! and finally, I do not see ANY OTHER RELIGION OR GOD be it Hindus, Christians, Bahai, Jewish, Buddhist, or even Animist, killing 20,000 innocent people since 9/11 in terrorist attacks in the NAME OF ITS RELIGION!..so get with the program, PLEASE ! this is about how to fight TERRORISM, and what steps can be taken to save our world. I believe the first step is that we must Identify the Enemy, we must name the Quran as a Terror Manual with a DEFINITE Political Agenda that is diametrically opposed to and THREATENS our Democracy. Once that is established Islam must be named and shamed, by EDUCATING the masses, including muslims residing in our midst, about the fascist racist ideology within their Quran. The key to winning against Islam is EDUCATION and subsequently REJECTION of the muslim cult! This can only be done by Governments being in agreement, and at present this is NOT happening, instead they are PROMOTING Islam, even into our schools! That means we must elect NEW Governments willing to listen and act to preserve freedom of religion ( or none)and freedom of speech! But I fear that by the time the people and governments finally GET IT, the muslim infiltration into our societies may be too far advanced politically and demographically to do much about it!
My comment is addressing Zeus…
I read most of your writings. You are right in targeting Muslims of today, they are opposite to the Muslims of 1000 years ago. total life of islam is about 1400 years only. I agree with you that Muslims of last about 100 years became violent and forgot their ancestors who were always peaceful. All religions flourished under Muslim rulers. I came to know after playing a documentary on History Of islam in 9 volumes presented by christian Scholars. Still available in U tube documentaries. The history have been presented without any bias. Prophet Muhammad (saw) prophesied that Muslims will lose their faith and will become uncultured completely, what we see today. Almost 90 percent Muslims and Muslim countries are illiterate uncultured human beings. But remember the Quran is the same and education provided by Quran is the same. What is going to happen with these Muslim Beasts, same what is law of nature, they will destroy themselves by killing each other. Peaceful followers of God should see the result. Muhammad prophesied that Messiah will come, just as the Messiah Jesus Christ came when jews forgot their religion. Messiah came in Islam about 120 years ago in India. He founded a community called Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. All the Muslims Mullah of that time declared him infidel and tried to kill him, just like romans tried to kill Prophet Jesus Christ (sa) but all muslims failed to to kill the Muhamman Messiah. The Ahmadiyya community started growing slowly is now in almost 200 countries of world. They work for poor people irrespective of faith. Their Motto is “Love for All Hatred for None”. This is the group which presents real Islam. What I want to tell you that Muslim masses of today have been hijacked by a group of Muslim Mullah mostly from Pakistan, Indonesia and Middle East. These are the people who are illiterate and extremest. Do not worry, God will take care of themselves by the Law of Nature….Self Destruction….If you Love peace remain Peaceful and see what almighty God, Allah, Jehovah, Krishana…is going to bring peace for His believers. Read the previous history of Religions since Adam (as) and Noah (as), it will shed light, How God deals with Terrorists. My advice is do not talk about Quran…this book confirms truthfulness of Torah and other Books from God. May Almighty God be with you and all other critics on the subject. I do not blame any one. Every one wrote according to the Knowledge he/she have about the subject. All religions came from One God, the creator of this Universe, we should understand this and follow the religion we believe in, without criticising other. Our knowledge is very limited. We do not know who is right in the matter of Faith and who is wrong. But one we know all faiths are from the same Creator God almighty, whatever name we use to connect to Him. All paths leads to Him.
Actually, ALL the top people that run NASA and it contractors like JPL are Masons.
They consider Moslems to be fools and ignorant peasants. And frankly, most Arab Islamic followers are bi-sexual,with young boys greatly desired. Not so much the Indoneasians.
Congrats Imran and some Spaniards , I think u ppl have just lost the humanity. Feeling ashamed to be a part of this so called “Modern” Society.
Read my post above and get with the program, you are soo ignorant, its useful idiots like you who are the enablers of this death cult, you should be ashamed of yourself, at such a time as this when the world is facing mass slaughter and finally extinction by a fanatic religious cult…it behoves ALL freedom loving people to be aware, to inform themselves! you have the internet, really you have no excuse for NOT knowing what we are facing in our modern society.
I wish Spain well in their endeavours, but don’t hold your breath, too many Moroccans live there!!! Muslims are basically “followers” and on the surface some may seem peaceful but when the big boys shout – jump, they will shout – how high?
Koran is pure evil people, it was given to Mohammad by Satan . If you read the koran you read Satan words. Pure evil. All books of the Koran need to be destroyed, all mosques burned to the ground.
Sept 11 2001 was a terrible day, it was a lesson on Islam and awoke the sleeping world what Islam is really about. DEATH. Don’t let those lives lost be forgotten. If we have any blessings from that day it to learn what Islam is really about DEATH and HATE, DESTRUCTION, TERROR and PURE EVIL. Congratulations to Spain for recognizing evil and ridding of evil.
Actually, while I agree the Koran is pure evil, moslems had nothing to do with 9-11. It was a Mossad/CIA operation. I’m a semi-retired investigator with 30 plus years in the harness.
As always, follow the money. It was all done by Talmudic loving wannabe Jews.
If James Holmes (Colorado killer) and Behring Breivik (who kills 77 innocent people in Norway) was muslim, they would be a Terrorists.
Okay…you have named TWO attacks upon innocent people, Breivik for one did not kill in the name of a religion..so that leaves us with two isolated attacks versus 20,000 islamist attacks in the name of Allah, worldwide since 9/11…get a reality check!
The quran is nothing but toilet paper.
I hope the best Spanish leaders will grow a pair and ban that book of bullshit along with Muslims.
Allah is a woman, and Muhammad is HER bitch!
It’s amazing how so many people can jump right to conclusions. Did anyone of you actually read the Quran to begin with? Well for starters, I have. Nowhere does it encourage killing and violence and hatred. People just believe what they want to believe. And what kind of common sense do you people have that you blame a religion for the deeds of some people? We are all educated here right? Everyone should be aware that religion should not be blamed for evil acts. Christians, Jews, Hindus, all of these people are capable of wrong doing but that doesn’t mean that the religion is preaching it. And for all that debate about Hazrat Muhammad (SM ) and Jesus Christ ( PBUH ), I am not going to preach about this here but let me just say that, it’s not an act of courage to dump insulting ideas on people. If you don’t like our prophet then that’s fine as long as you keep your opinions to yourself. You don’t see anyone insulting your ideas here do you? No one has insulted Jesus Christ (PBUH ) here. Then why do you? These comments here are filled with such hatred that it saddens me. Yet you ignore that. And Islams preaches hatred huh? Amazing logic.
Islam is a religion of peace only when it is in the minority. God pity the Christians & those who will not convert to Islam when once they become the ruling party in any nation. Islam is a religio-politio system. Take for example in Israel: the Muslims are free to worship & build their mosques in Israel. What is the problem then with these Muslims? What more can any religious people want?
I will tell you what is the problem: their god requires the enslavement of every human being. It is impossible therefore for these people to have a democratic system of government when they are in controle. There god & religion cannot allow this. Just like the ancient Israelites whose religion, unlike that of Islam, really had been of God, this religion is a religio-politio system with its religion dominating everything under its dominion. And those who do not submit must die. Let us not be fooled. Most Muslims do not even understand what or who is behind their religion.
I recommend that you research about a religion before you decide to insult it. Seeing as you are completely misguided by your own imaginations, I am not even going to try to argue with you about this. It’ll be a waste of both of our times.
What a liar you Candy, if you really had read the q’ran you would realise it is full of instructions to kill non muslims, mistreat children and women and take away peoples God given rights. Golive in a muslim taken over country and practise your taquiyaa you fool.
ha ha ha ha just KNEW you were a muslim all along…that makes your arguments invalid….of course you don’t want ur evil book banned! stop trolling and enjoy your cult..
we wouldn’t mind keeping our opinions to ourselves if muslims could but they can’t. not read the hate,violence in the Qur’an you most have read it upside down or you where reading the new testament about Jesus Christ
Here is a seemingly counterintuitive, but very efective tactic that has worked well in past.
“I am convinced that nothing more irksome and harmful could possibly be done to Mohammed or the Turks [Islam] (more than with all weapons) than the publication among Christians of their Koran. By reading it Christians may see what an utterly accursed, shameful, wretched book it is – full of lies, fables, and all abominations… Therefore my kind and Christian petition to you, my gracious and dear sirs, is: Be pleased to allow this book freely to circulate, without hinderance, for the glory of Christ, for the good of Christians, for the harm of the Turks, and to the disgust of the devil.”
Martin Luther to the city council of Basel on October 24, 1542.
1. The Quran is not a sacred and religious book, but a violent book, full of hatred and discrimination.
2. Quran is a horrible book which provokes a community it calls Muslims to undertake Jihad, kill innocent people and destroy the peace of the world.
3. The Quran is responsible for all the terrorism we have seen in recent years in which thousands of people lost their lives.
4. The Quran is a book which contains evil teachings and forces its believers to capture the entire world and total power at any price.
5. The Quran is a book which legally permits and incites hatred and violence, and for that reason it is not compatible with the modern world, including Spain.
6. The Quran is a book which directly discriminates between human beings.
7. The Quran is a book which does not allow either freedom of expression or religious freedom.
8. The Quran is a book which causes women to suffer and be tortured through the totality of its injustice and macho laws.
9. The Quran is a book which, rather than teaching unity, teaches disunity, and in this way does not allow its believers to form friendships with those who are not Muslims, because in the eyes of Quran they are infidels.
10. The Quran is a major threat to the free society of Spain. A book which clearly preaches the messages of jihad, killing, hate, discrimination and revenge. For that reason it cannot be compatible with the Spanish system in any sense. It is a book totally contrary to what the law and constitution of Spain say, and it incites hatred and violence in our country.
Right. And the Bible of course does not have any of these things. *sarcasm*
A major point that is missing from the above list is that the Koran decrees that good works/deeds are required for salvation e.g. “Those whose balance [of good works or deeds] is heavy will attain salvation, but those whose balance is light will have lost their souls and will abide in hell 23:102.”
The doctrine of salvation through good works/deeds features strongly throughout the Koran where it will often say, “Those who believe and do good works/deeds.” 3:45, 6:125, 18:83, 22:55, 31:6, 47:1, 84:23, 98:6.
The Bible on the other hand, states that salvation is by grace alone. “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Ephesians 2:8, 9.
The God of the Bible and the god of the Koran are not one and the same.
Also, not everything that is in the Bible is condoned by the Bible; but is necessarily included in order to be able to relate the story. There is no story about life that would even be realistic or valid that does not have the good, the bad and the ugly included in it.
Romans 2:6-8 says that one who is known for his good deeds will receive eternal life.
“He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.”
And even you own verse, Ephesians 2:8-9, which states we are saved through Faith, did Jesus not say in James 2:
“14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that —and shudder.
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.”
As your quote says, “For by grace you have been saved through faith”, and as Jesus says, without good deeds, faith is dead, and useless.
All of the above quotes still all reside under the one roof of, “For by grace you have been saved through faith; it is the gift of God, not of works…”
Evident in your comment’s is the foolish notion that God ‘owes us’ for our good works, which is trying to make him our servant.
God owes us nothing; he does because he desires to do, for free, not because he has to…
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
The fact that God himself had to make atonement for us demonstrates the seriousness of our condition and that scratching at the debt with good deeds will not even put a tiny dent in it.
John 3:16 plainly states that we are not to put our hope and confidence in good deeds or works, but in Christ alone, and that we should be saved now rather than after a lifetime of drudgery, pain and misery in order to gain credit with God; he wants to give us salvation now, before judgement day.
Judgement day will be too late to recieve forgivness; the door will be closed.
And anyone not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15
Judgement day is judgement day; it is not judgement and forgiveness day.
Forgivness day is right here and now.
Behold, now is the accepted time; behold now is the day of salvation. 2corinthians 6:2
Handing God an invoice for our good works places us outside the Kingdom of Grace. He does reward good deeds but only for their own sake, freely done out of gratitude towards God because of grace freely given, but cetainly not as a means of gaining heaven.
Also, we need to be saved first, and then the tree will be made good so that it is able to bear good fruit(good deeds).
“A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.” Mathew 7:18
And once saved, we have already become the sons of God.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God… 1John 3:1
Being blinded by the doctrine of good deeds to attain salvation…
But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those that are perishing, whose minds the god of this age [Satan] has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2Corinthians 4:4
…over that which is provided by Christ, is evidence of God’s wrath and judgement on sin/crime, because in reality, the doctrine of good deeds or works is nothing more than a prison.
Reliance on good deeds is idolatry.
And worshiped the work of their own hands. Jeremiah 1:16
Partly true, but you have missed my point. You of course should not do good deeds and good deeds alone and expect this to save you, but you should do good deeds none the less, for it was explained through Faith you are saved, and without good deeds, your Faith is dead. So how can you truly have faith, and therefore be saved, without good deeds done in the name of the Lord?
Matthew 6:1-4
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Matthew 5
“14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.”
And even your own quote from Ephesians, when you include the next line, says that we are to do good deeds:
“8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith —and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
The idea we can glean from this is that those who do good deeds in order to be seen as a good person, or those who do good deeds solely to purchase a place in heaven, will not find eternal life, but as the Bible tells us, those who show their faith through their deeds and works, for no other reason than to show the glory and honor of God, will find eternal life as their reward. Just as good works alone will not let you see Heaven, neither will faith alone grant you access. For again, how can you be saved by grace through faith, when without deeds your faith is dead?
Good deeds are a result of having been saved; not of trying to be saved.
They are only an outward manifestation of what is already going on inside. “For a tree is known by its fruit.” Mat 12:33
Without the initial dispensation of grace, all efforts are lost anyway. Only grace has the power to save.
“…without deeds your faith is dead” simply means that to lay around on the couch all day is no help to God’s kingdom.
Good deeds have no more value than that of an advertisment or witness of God’s kingdom.
Saved is saved. We are not saved more one day and less the next; because what is the standard of how much we should do? If our nieghbour does more than us, is he more saved? What is the standard of how good a good deed is? It will always vary for one reason or another and from one person to another.
Being saved is a one-time all encompassing event. Our reward in heaven may vary but we are still saved.
The verses of John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8, 9, Mat 22:37-40 and 7:12, Gal 3:11 and 1John 4:1-3 are an immovable foundation against the harmful doctrines of any religions, sects, cults, and ideology’s that try to decieve us.
They simply state that the work of redemption has already been organised and completed by God on our behalf and for his glory. “It is finished” John 19:30
Our salvation is not subject to our own wills but to God’s will alone, which is just as well, given our weaknesses.
Any doctrine that states otherwise contradicts God’s word in the Bible.
“…as for myself, I frankly confess, that I should not want free will to be given to me, even if it could be, nor anything else left in my own hands to enable me to strive after my salvation. And that, not merely, because in the face of so many dangers, adversities and onslaughts of devils, I could not stand my ground and hold fast my free will – for one devil is stronger than all men, and on these terms no man could be saved – but because, even if there were no dangers, adversities or devils, I should be forced to labour with no guarantee of success and beat the air only. If I lived and worked to all eternity, my concience would never reach comfortable certainty as to how much it must do to satisfy God. Whatever work it had done, there would still remain a scrupling as to whether or not it had pleased God, or whether he required something more. The experience of all who seek righteousness by works proves that. I learned it by bitter experience over a period of many years. But now that God has put salvation out of the control of my own will and put it under the control of his, and has promised to save me, not according to my effort or running, but according to his own grace and mercy, I rest fully assured that he is faithful and will not lie to me, and that moreover he is great and powerful, so that no devils and no adversities can destroy him or pluck me out of his hand ["...neither shall anyone snatch them out of my hand." John 10:28]. I am certain that I please God, not by the merit of my works, but by reason of his merciful favour promised to me. So that if I work too little or badly, he does not impute it to me, but like a father, pardons me and makes me better. This is the glorying which the saints have in their God.” Luther.
“With the rebirth of European
Culture, medieval scholars
eagerly investigated the
scientific knowledge they
found in the libraries and
universities of Muslim Spain. Not only had the Muslim’s
preserved the writings of Plato
and Aristotle and salvaged the
mathematical and medical
knowledge of the Hellenistic
world, they built upon it by means of emperimental
research in the laboratory.
Gerard of Cremona (1114-1187)
devoted his entire life
translating 92 complete
scientific works from Arabic including Ibn Sina’s vast Canon,
which for centuries remained
the supreme authority of its
field in all the medical schools
of Europe.” (Islam Versus The
West; Page 13-14)
-All the Arabs did when they invaded and occupied the much more advanced Spain was to TRANSLATE ancient greek writings into arabic..it was GREEK knowledge they translated and when they occupied the Indus (India/Pakistan today) Valley they claimed to have invented the 0 Zero , which was actually a Hindu discovery..Arab muslim culture have never invented a thing, they just stole the advanced knowledge and cultures from the nations they invaded and occupied, still doing it today, the most backward people in the world today are the muslims
While I consider consider Islam a vile, evil cult, they had nothing to do with 9-11. It was a false flag attack, set up by our own government. But Moslems are such fools and willing patsies, they danced in the street. And ask yourself, why did WTC fall that sad day.
I strongly disagree, Buck
So please tell me why WTC 7 fell?
Please watch ‘September Clues’
Anyone who claims the Koran isn’t full of hatred is a complete liar. But then again, lying is permitted in the Koran as long as it furthers the plans of the Muslim who is lying. But let’s not forget. Muslims are required to follow the Hadith literature even above the Koran. The Hadith literature is all about the life of Mohammed and his marriages to children and rapes of those children. Then the murders of entire societies for refusing to convert. And how Muslims are required to treat non believers. How Jews are worse than dogs. How followers of the book (bible) are the same and should be beheaded. This entire religion is a cult. It is incompatible with the modern world. It is not compatible with democracy or freedom or liberty. Therefore in order to survive the modern world should ban the Koran and prevent any Muslim immigration. If Muslim nations are so great why are so many Muslims trying to immigrate to the west? It’s to defeat us from within. Banning the Koran and sharia laws is only a start. All Muslims need to be deported back to their country of origin. And I have read and studied all of the books and literature related to Islam.
At last! Congratulations to the Spanish government for accepting this petition. Please, everyone in Spain, write to your representative and encourage them to support this petition. The koran can be classified under ‘hate speech’, and therefore it contravenes our Freedom of Speech.
hi fellow Aussie, how about we prepare a similar petition to our Australian Government…the Quran should be considered a Hate book of military and political TheoFascism..not a religious book but rather a book on Arab Colonization..
Islam needs to change for better. Muslims are killing each other in Syria, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Mali, Sudan, Somalia etc. Muslims are number one killer of other Muslims. Even Allah kills Muslim via all natural cause than other religious people. Young Muslims likes to learn English more than Arabic. They do not know how to read Arabic Koran.
Just read Hadith:
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 84 :: Hadith 57
Narrated ‘Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Koran 2:191
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And … they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is …
Muhsin Khan
And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them … (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is …
Dr. Ghali
And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them …
Shakir
And kill them wherever you catch them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; and temptation … (Literally: stronger) than killing; and do not fight with them at the Inviolable … with you therein; so in case they fight with you, then kill them; thus …
Found in: Sahih International / Muhsin Khan / Dr. Ghali / Shakir
Koran 4:91
to top in surah
Sahih International
… you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those – We have made for you against them a …
Shakir
… you, nor offer you peace, nor restrain their hands, take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them. In their case, We have provided you with …
Dr. Ghali
… from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear …
Muhsin Khan
… you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear …
Pickthall
You will soon find others willing to be secure from you, and secure … from you, and offer you submissiveness, and restrain their hands, then take them and kill them where you catch them; and against those ones We have appointed for you …
Found in: Sahih International / Shakir / Dr. Ghali / Muhsin Khan / Pickthall
Koran has lots of word of “Killing”……
Check it out: http://www.HotIslam.com & more to come
The devil is creator and instigator of the quran, the devil has always desired to be worshiped, so he creates a religion that requires men to visit a place and walk round a dark block while he sits in to receive the worship, and for men to bow down to pray number of times a day. Evil is synonymous with the quran.
Leviticus 26:1-46 “You shall not make idols for yourselves or erect an image or pillar, and you shall not set up a figured stone in your land to bow down to it, for I am the Lord your God.
Matt 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
An individual can understand by the acts of a nation how it treats its minorities. Take for example any Muslim Majority nation, can we see that the minorities are given high position in their society or any benefits given by the government. No we cannot see, what we can see is that the minorities are fighting for their protection, livelihood, unable to freely worship.
Take for instance, Coptic Christians in Egypt, as the Islamist parties are gaining power, atrocities against coptics are increasing. In Pakistan, Christian girls are raped, converted forcefully and then married to Muslim man. The government also protects the goons.
In Indonesia, muslims don’t allow Christians to build places of their worship. They are always attacked by the so called Islamist groups, branding them as infidels. All muslim countries have the same story.
In Saudi Arabia, they do not allow to build worship places of different religions but Saudi Arabia is very eager to fund mosque buildings in US and European countries, as these governments are liberal. Saudi has no religious freedom.
From the above stated examples, even a layman will understand that if this religion becomes majority in a nation or an area, it tries to eliminate other religions. It cannot co-exist with others but the intellectual governments of the west cannot understand it. The sooner they understand, the better the world would be.
The Quaran is now more violent than the Bible. Reas the old testament and you will see.
The Quran is NOT more voilent than the Bible. Read the old testament and you will see yourself.
Just a few examples :
Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12
“I will … smite Egypt with all my wonders.” 3:20
God threatens to kill the Pharaoh’s firstborn son. 4:23
God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26
Moses and Aaron ask the Pharaoh to let all the Israelites go into the desert to pray for three days, or else God will kill them all “with pestilence, or with the sword.” 5:3
“Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh.” 6:1
God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4
“And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD.” Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17
God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24
The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6
The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12
Moses killed one in self defense, Mohammad fought in 26 battled, and 66 overall, took thousands of lives. Jesus said to love your enemies and forgive them, does the Qu’ran teach that?
All the Old Testament God directly gave commands for judgement, the Qu’ran gives a blank open command to kill the non-Muslims without Allah needed to say anything, Mohammad said he is a prophet but did not act like Moses or Jesus. Mohammed was violent, ruthless and set terrible examples. This is all recorded in the Islamic texts.
All muslims should be thankful for Jesus’s words of love lest the old testament be followed and muslems be made extinct. By the way….How is it that the name Allah is made to mean God? It is recorded that Mohammed’s parents and grandparents had Allah as part of there full names. How then can the name Allah be other than that given to the pagan god?
As to banning the quaran… just tear out the parts that speak to violence, condemnation and subjection of others. Allowing only the love we all should have for each other during our short stay on earth.
Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12
“I will … smite Egypt with all my wonders.” 3:20
God threatens to kill the Pharaoh’s firstborn son. 4:23
God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26
Moses and Aaron ask the Pharaoh to let all the Israelites go into the desert to pray for three days, or else God will kill them all “with pestilence, or with the sword.” 5:3
“Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh.” 6:1
God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4
“And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD.” Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17
God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24
The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6
The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12
Moses killing one in self defense is nothing in comparison to Mohammad dozens of battles taking many lives as a warlord.
I noticed you don’t mention the New Testament at all, why not?
The Koran is the most evil book ever in the world, Islam need to be branded a satanic death cult the world MUST board up every satanic mosque and jail any idiot that wants to practice satans religion Islam. It is more eval than any ideology ever seen in the world, it is SATAN’s religion.
I agree with u that islam is the most violent religion in this world…. its a shame that islam exists still today when non muslim nations are the superpowers of the world… it has killed the humanity… every religion hate islam.. no one has faced such brutualities that hindu religion has faced…
Europe a Christian continent when we put aside Bosnia,Albania and Kosovo who soon as well would be Christianized,there for everybody else who is not a Christian and especially the members of the gutter cult Islam ARE NOT WELCOME IN EUROPE.
Good they are standing up against muslims. I think there should be a movement against muslims and their hatred against women and non muslims.
The muslim community is a danger.they’re goal is to make Europe into a islamic state. They will go as far as lying to get you to submit to islam,and to accept testimony from a moderate Muslim is to accept testimony on how to carry out surgery from a person only trained in first aid.
Yes The ordinary Muslim people can be very nice on the surface. But underlying this is the teaching of Islam from the Quran that all unbelievers are infidels and should be killed.
Muslims are not accepting modernization. They still live in old mentality and blame other religions knowing that they themselves have spoiled the repute of their own religion. They can only learn Quran and don”t apply to life. A complete reformation is required for them and for the world peace.
Ban? No. Kill them ALL like the sickening murderous cultists that they are? Yes. We need to do a lot more of that. Muslims will never rest until the entire world is brought under their sickening dogma. Never. They will never accept peace with non-believers, and we just need to accept that. Rabid dogs get put down. Serial killers who commit mass murder get the chair. If they want a holy war that badly, let them have it.
EUROPE DOES NOT NEED FILTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How ironic, that an article professing to deliver good news for those fighting against a “fascism” are celebrating the idea of a book being banned.
No doubt you will advocate burning it, next.
For the record; I do not advocate banning any book, as to Moslems?
“By their fruits ye shall know them”
Why do you think they all want to immigrate from their shit-hole nations and come here?
Please read Gen. Patton’s book; ‘WAR AS I KNEW IT’